tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post5565786165237593514..comments2023-12-22T17:00:41.974-08:00Comments on The ZehnKatzen Times: [liff] NBC News Overnight, And How You Can Tell The Current Crop Of Newsers is A Dog's BreakfastSamuel John Kleinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00514541030057763303noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-2276243877188889122008-08-17T21:46:00.001-07:002008-08-17T21:46:00.001-07:00Yes. The Dickies. "I'm Stuck in a Pagoda With Tric...Yes. The Dickies. "I'm Stuck in a Pagoda With Tricia Toyota"!. <BR/><BR/>Found it on iTunes. Review to ensue.Samuel John Kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514541030057763303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-21091667426899934372008-08-17T21:46:00.000-07:002008-08-17T21:46:00.000-07:00Yes. The Dickies. "I'm Stuck in a Pagoda With Tric...Yes. The Dickies. "I'm Stuck in a Pagoda With Tricia Toyota"!. <BR/><BR/>Found it on iTunes. Review to ensue.Samuel John Kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514541030057763303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-25193884823306143962008-08-17T17:32:00.000-07:002008-08-17T17:32:00.000-07:00"Stuck in a Pagoda With Tritia Toyota"!"Stuck in a Pagoda With Tritia Toyota"!Kevin Allmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14816304949142113895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-35839285848118639192008-08-17T10:15:00.000-07:002008-08-17T10:15:00.000-07:00i didn't know Tritia was born in Portland, but she...i didn't know Tritia was born in Portland, but she was one of the things always around when I was a kid. Early evening news on Channel 4 in L.A.. The Dickies wrote a song about her.prilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04227335281113915574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-20438903672227156722008-08-16T21:28:00.000-07:002008-08-16T21:28:00.000-07:00@ Linda:A friend sent me the link to your blog yes...@ Linda:<BR/><BR/><I><B>A friend sent me the link to your blog yesterday, August 15, which was my birthday. <BR/><BR/>A bittersweet greeting card, I'd say. Sweet memories of putting together NBC News Overnight (and the happy knowledge that someone out there liked it), and bitter about the fact they made us stop doing it. </B></I><BR/><BR/>Thank you to your friend; and thank you to you as well, for according me the honor. Just between you, me, and everyone who might read this, this is one of the things I love about the intarweb; you never know when one of your personal heroes might respond to what you've said. <BR/><BR/>If I may be forgiven a bit of hero worship, of course. I'm a fan; I won't hide from that.<BR/><BR/>I've watched a great deal of tee vee in my life, and it seems to me that the best, most watchable, and most elevating shows were ones that the crew loved putting together. It certainly showed on <I>Overnight</I>. Since I loved tee vee news at the time, the news shows that really clicked for me were the ones which were true labors of love. it's clear that's what you all had there.<BR/><BR/>That was sweet from my side (also the truth that you obviously didn't take your audience for dummies. You talked to us, not at us and especially not down to us).<BR/><BR/>The bitter for me as a viewer was that the nets never really have tried to carry forward the still-apparently-avant garde notion that smart sells, which you made real. I think <I>Overnight</I> showed that it does. The wit that still exists on <I>World News Now</I> shows that it can. As does Lucky Duck's output since the days of <I>Overnight</I>.<BR/><BR/><I><B>Dobyns is well, more-or-less happy, retired and living in Virginia, and, I'm proud to report, still sporting considerable attitude. </B></I><BR/><BR/>That's the way I remember him on <I>Overnight</I> and also on <I>Weekend</I> (the only news magazine that, as far as I know, started with riffs form the Rolling Stones). I miss that attitude. We need more of it amongst the newser class today. <BR/><BR/><I><B>chechner just lost his job at a TV station in San Francisco. They thought he was too old. He is younger than I am and I am younger than Dobyns</B></I><BR/><BR/>I followed that story via a few blogs. That was KPIX, one of the big old SF stations, if I wot correctly. Watching a station with a history like KPIX just show its more exprienced wisdom the door I find discouraging to be honest. <BR/><BR/>I hold a great amount of stock in the idea that organizations can have memory, and the memory of organizations live in people like that. KPIX may survive without talent like Bill, but I don't think they'll really be worth watching at all.<BR/><BR/>Once again, happy birthday. I still see birthdays as a celebration, though sometimes I wonder what there is to celebrate. That's just me; I'm an optimistic pessimist at heart. <BR/><BR/>But you actually gave me a gift by leaving me a comment. I'll treasure it for quite a long time.<BR/><BR/>If you can send my wishes along to Dobyns and Schechner, that's be a bonus. What little brain remains in Tee Vee news is because of what people like you did when you did it.<BR/><BR/>And I must applaud the manifest good taste that your daughter has in choosing Portland to settle in.<BR/>If they cruise blogs, they're welcome to stop on by. As are you, anytime.Samuel John Kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514541030057763303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-12351452342969043462008-08-16T20:06:00.000-07:002008-08-16T20:06:00.000-07:00@ pril:That pretty much made my day. No, strike th...@ pril:<BR/><BR/>That pretty much made my day. No, strike that. My year.Samuel John Kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514541030057763303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-4206575808318310522008-08-16T16:30:00.000-07:002008-08-16T16:30:00.000-07:00hey thats pretty cool, manhey thats pretty cool, manprilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04227335281113915574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-81824235591538265672008-08-16T14:33:00.000-07:002008-08-16T14:33:00.000-07:00Did I mention that my daughter and her daughter li...Did I mention that my daughter and her daughter live in Portland?<BR/><BR/>linda ellerbeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-20299338123222417462008-08-16T14:32:00.000-07:002008-08-16T14:32:00.000-07:00A friend sent me the link to your blog yesterday, ...A friend sent me the link to your blog yesterday, August 15, which was my birthday. <BR/><BR/>A bittersweet greeting card, I'd say. Sweet memories of putting together NBC News Overnight (and the happy knowledge that someone out there liked it), and bitter about the fact they made us stop doing it. <BR/><BR/>Dobyns is well, more-or-less happy, retired and living in Virginia, and, I'm proud to report, still sporting considerable attitude. Schechner just lost his job at a TV station in San Francisco. They thought he was too old. He is younger than I am and I am younger than Dobyns. But for the last 18 years, my viewers have been those who watch Nickelodeon, and to a 10-year-old, anyone over 20 is old. I was 64 yesterday. And so it goes.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the kind words.<BR/><BR/>Linda EllerbeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-63699979732037532442008-08-16T09:19:00.000-07:002008-08-16T09:19:00.000-07:00That was from about 1992 to 1994 that were the Aar...That was from about 1992 to 1994 that were the Aaron Brown era. <BR/><BR/>Too bad that you don't remember too much content, then again, you were probably not a news show addict like I was (the current terrible state of news shows have gotten me over <I>that</I> addiction. Of course, now I'd spend 26 hours a day reading blogs if I could. Ah, well, <I>plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose</I>)Samuel John Kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514541030057763303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-37411607818702646742008-08-16T07:14:00.000-07:002008-08-16T07:14:00.000-07:00i don't remember any of the content. I just remem...i don't remember any of the content. I just remember that my room mate at the time would get off work at the pizza place, listen to the AM alternative station's "vote on this song" thing and then we'd watch that show and just die. Of course, we were smoking a lot of pot, too. So, beyond just funny, it was weird too. That was 93? 94?prilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04227335281113915574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-32756208931067051572008-08-15T19:59:00.000-07:002008-08-15T19:59:00.000-07:00Oh, yea. You are indeed thinking of World News Now...Oh, yea. You are indeed thinking of <I>World News Now</I>. Yeah, in the beginning that program, during the Lisa and Aaron days, came as close to the witty, wry outlook that <I>NBC News Overnight</I> had, though intellectually I don't think Aaron Brown will ever be as deep as either Linda Ellerbee or Lloyd Dobyns on a bad day.<BR/><BR/>But yeah, that was the stuff, wasn't it. They had people mailing in videos for the coveted <I>WNN</I> coffee mug, they had a resident humorist and accordion player (Barry Mitchell), and it's where I got turned on to that odd fellow Ian Sholes ("gottago"). And the <I>World News Now</I> National Temperature Index, which they refused to say how they came to it.<BR/><BR/>I even have to say that <I>WNN</I> turned me on to Yanni just a little (please don't hate me for that B-) ). Yanni did the theme music and the bumper music, and yes, I know it was Yanni and all, but that stuff got under my skin and stayed there.<BR/><BR/>Y'alls excuse me ... I have to go dance the <I>World News Polka</I> now.Samuel John Kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514541030057763303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-12181741006914387602008-08-15T19:43:00.000-07:002008-08-15T19:43:00.000-07:00nono.. world news this morning. the funny one wit...nono.. world news this morning. the funny one with aaron brown that was on in like the mid-90s. <BR/><BR/>I suck at remembering what things are called. so, no.. not peter jenningsprilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04227335281113915574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-10158164369631573802008-08-15T08:45:00.000-07:002008-08-15T08:45:00.000-07:00Yo Samuel John, you've got some automatic audio co...<I>Yo Samuel John, you've got some automatic audio coming on.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Yeah, it's the Shatner video embed. LiveVideo insists on making it go automatically even if you check the box saying not to do that. Enough people have seen it that I think I can make it into a link.<BR/><BR/><I>And you know what you should put in your header where it says "something about Web 2.0 should go here"? "It's not as good as Web 3.0."</I><BR/><BR/>That's pretty good, LT. I'll work that in.Samuel John Kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514541030057763303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-80697040449129734482008-08-15T08:22:00.000-07:002008-08-15T08:22:00.000-07:00Yo Samuel John, you've got some automatic audio co...Yo Samuel John, you've got some automatic audio coming on.<BR/><BR/>And you know what you should put in your header where it says "something about Web 2.0 should go here"? "It's not as good as Web 3.0."LThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08803493932970949446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-87147476495346174172008-08-14T20:15:00.000-07:002008-08-14T20:15:00.000-07:00The Peter Jennings days?The Peter Jennings days?Samuel John Kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514541030057763303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-32175674975583290292008-08-14T19:36:00.000-07:002008-08-14T19:36:00.000-07:00o i dearly miss world news tonighto i dearly miss world news tonightprilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04227335281113915574noreply@blogger.com