tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post5987058121500539900..comments2024-03-26T21:46:56.291-07:00Comments on The ZehnKatzen Times: Why I Think People Should Vote No On Measure 64Samuel John Kleinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00514541030057763303noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-10542876299406197732008-11-06T12:05:00.000-08:002008-11-06T12:05:00.000-08:00Sigh indeed.I just heard that William U'Ren was fo...Sigh indeed.<BR/><BR/>I just heard that William U'Ren was found spinning in his grave when you expressed that thoughtSamuel John Kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514541030057763303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-40860720191605280092008-11-06T11:35:00.000-08:002008-11-06T11:35:00.000-08:00And did you see? It looks like measure 64 is going...And did you see? It looks like measure 64 is going down! Yes!!<BR/><BR/>Or I should say, going down *again.* Sizemore has put it out there three times now? Four?<BR/><BR/>No doubt we'll see it again in 2010. Sigh.Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10523307255698594696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-53594617536705744222008-11-04T01:09:00.000-08:002008-11-04T01:09:00.000-08:00Measure 64 seeks to put a second cap on labor unio...<I><B>Measure 64 seeks to put a second cap on labor unions at the front end, at the level of individual participants. It doesn't apply this new cap to corporations. Unfair!</B></I><BR/><BR/>That must be the loophole one of those commercials metioned. Nifty! If you like a world where big business is the only voice you hear, this measure's the one for you.<BR/><BR/>Actually, I've become convinced that Sizemore doesn't care what goes into those measures anymore except in so far as they please the people who write his paycheck. And it's been very profitable for him to hurt working people.<BR/><BR/><I><B>Besides all of which, Sizemore is a complete ass.</B></I><BR/><BR/>Well you know someone said he wasn't fit to lick your shoes, but I stuck up for him; I said he certainly was!<BR/><BR/>And people say I have no heart.Samuel John Kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514541030057763303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-9696963730995431332008-11-03T20:01:00.000-08:002008-11-03T20:01:00.000-08:00I voted No, but only because "hell no" wasn't avai...I voted No, but only because "hell no" wasn't available. I took my time to blacken the oval, keeping carefully within the line. I want the optical counting machine thingy to see that no.<BR/><BR/>The following is not original, but it's an important point for me, so here goes: under current law, both labor unions and corporations are limited in how much money they can contribute toward political advocacy (especially campaigns and candidates). Like it or lump it, that cap is in place.<BR/><BR/>Measure 64 seeks to put a second cap on labor unions at the front end, at the level of individual participants. It doesn't apply this new cap to corporations. Unfair!<BR/><BR/>The exact equivalent for corporations would be to outlaw "mingling" of shareholder funds -- when I buy a share of a company, I don't get to "opt out" of letting that money go to its political advocacy efforts. Nor is the company barred from using proceeds of sales of shares for political advocacy. It can mingle all it wants, subject to the back-end limits on campaign contributions.<BR/><BR/>Union dues are, in effect, "shares" of the union. If it's terrible and unjust "mingling" in one case, then it's terrible and unjust "mingling" in the other.<BR/><BR/>Besides all of which, Sizemore is a complete ass.Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10523307255698594696noreply@blogger.com