tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post112101344026485303..comments2024-03-26T21:46:56.291-07:00Comments on The ZehnKatzen Times: [geography] The Address Nerd on East Portland Numbered StreetsSamuel John Kleinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00514541030057763303noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-1122175327834914692005-07-23T20:22:00.000-07:002005-07-23T20:22:00.000-07:00Isaac: One of them, out toward Gresham, was Hogan ...Isaac:<BR/><BR/><I> One of them, out toward Gresham, was Hogan Road (parts still are, I believe), and two others were (I think) Rockwood Road and Russellville Road.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Absolutely correct, at least insofar as my limited research abilities go.<BR/><BR/>I have a personal connection to Hogan Road. If you're ever out that way, keep an eye out for a charming farm house and big red barn on the east side of SE 242nd Ave, hard by the Multnomah-Clackamas County line (on the Clackamas side). This is immediately south of the Rugg Road intersection and just north of the little HIllsview Store at the fork where 242nd and SE Borges Road split. That's the house where my grandparents on my mother's side lived when I was a kid. And, at the time, the road was called Hogan Road.<BR/><BR/>The name is preserved within the Gresham city limits as NE/SE Hogan Rd/Ave (depends on the map or the street sign-they also can't seem to decide whether Kane is a Road, Avenue, or Drive).<BR/><BR/>Your observation about the other former names of currently-numbered Avenues is well-taken. Rockwood Road would have no doubt been todays NE/SE 181/182nd Avenue; and my guess is that Russellville Road would likely be todays NE/SE 102nd Avenue.<BR/><BR/>Just as an aside, the spot where today's Mall 205 is at one time was the site of what the maps call Morningside Hospital. A past aquaintance with some roots in the area told me some time ago that it was actually a sanitarium run by and for local Native Americans.<BR/><BR/>Also, if I may mention, my older Portland area maps agree with your comments on SW 145th Ave/Murray, and your comments on the evolution of the road itself. My experience has been whether or not you think of it as Murray Road, Avenue, or Blvd have a lot to do with how far back you go in those part. But good observation.<BR/><BR/>I've observed the Murrayhill area evolution of Scholls Ferry-Old Scholls Ferry-Barrows Roads with a sort of bemusement. I remember driving out there some years back, a couple of years before all the recent development and road renaming, because I just wanted to see what the area looked like. This was a couple of years before they changed the road names and alignments. I was surprised to find that, despite the name, the main stem of traffic in that area was down SW Old Scholls Ferry Road.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps, though, that was a natural given that Murray Boulevard ended there. In the meantime, though I admit the renaming makes sense, I regret the loss of a name like Old Scholls Ferry.<BR/><BR/>It's not completely gone, though. A smaller, though topologically similar bypass exists north from there, adjacent to the Portland Golf Club, along the part of Scholls Ferry between Allen Blvd and Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway, in the Raleigh Hills area.Samuel John Kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514541030057763303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-1121149083298874112005-07-11T23:18:00.000-07:002005-07-11T23:18:00.000-07:00Thanks for the compliment.I'll make extra sure the...Thanks for the compliment.<BR/><BR/>I'll make extra sure they are on point then...<BR/><BR/>This is the sort of thing I think of when I think of nothing else...does it show...?Samuel John Kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514541030057763303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7189482.post-1121140416702490312005-07-11T20:53:00.000-07:002005-07-11T20:53:00.000-07:00Awesome post[s]. I'm actually printing them out an...Awesome post[s]. I'm actually printing them out and stashing away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com